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RE: GHRO STEEM WITNESS FORUM 4/13/20

in #steemwitnessforum11 months ago (edited)

@17:40 was it hashkings talking ?
he said about the chain being unstable and a missing block!
earlier someone was talking about using different version WTF how can that create stability if everyone is free to run whatever version they want?

Is this how markymarky is still freely abusing people here as well as on hive because some of you have decided its a good idea have openly hostile accounts attacking the Steem Block Chain?
What other vectors of attack are open to him and other like him?
He is a very talented coder and he is also sneaky and enjoys fucking people over a lot!

What is the essential differences between the 22.55 and 22.88 versions?
We can NOT allow hostile players with large Stake to keep fucking with our witness selection, creating new accounts to attack us with and flagging because they dont like what people are saying.

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Im sorry but we strongly disagree with the freezing of anybody's accounts. Our stance is let them powerdown, and leave if that is what they desire. First rule of life, do not mess with a man's money. This is in the best interest of Steem. Freezing their accounts may be good for the short run, as far as the witness list goes. But in the long run this is going to hurt Steem. Why would anybody come to a place to invest, when they see people can have their accounts frozen? We need to get out there and start voting witnesses running 22.5.

Im sorry but we strongly disagree with the freezing of anybody's accounts.

No need to apologize for that.
There are alternatives and they need to be found. I have noticed inconsistencies in how the the Steem blockchain is performing such as this account being at 80 something % vote power then 100% a short time later and not reverting back to what it should be.
While I agree in principal regarding your position on freezing of accounts, there are other measures that would limit hostile activity such as voting for witnesses through proxies then removing those votes over time and flag attacks.
There is no need to freeze accounts provided more suitable alternatives are agreed upon.
Would it provide more stability if objecting Witnesses voluntarily disable their node (is that the right term?) or vice versa, while the work of reaching consensus on a new version is being done?
Who wants to invest in a block chain where your asset can be frozen right? Its not good for business

very great points indeed! Within time I do think we can get all this resolved, and achieve great things. But there is still no open communication between all the witnesses, but we are working on it:)

Yes that was @hashkings at that time mark
So I am not 100 percent about the exact differences of forks, however; 22.8 seems to include code that excludes users or freezes accounts from what I understand. We have no real power of witness voting,as I think as long as witness exist in this matter, we should not .
Vote for who you want, with your stake. That is MY OPINION.
In a free platform people are bound to try and troll, flag and such.
This is less of a problem than having stale witnesses taking valuable votes and roles as we try to rebuild or stabilize he blockchain.
Apparently yes, witnesses can run any version, but the less productive the more wasteful it is.