Antiabuse Contribution for October - Flagging Bid Bot Abuse

in #utopian-io3 years ago (edited)

As the community manager for anti-abuse category, it should be fitting to see an anti-abuse contribution coming from me.

You may not know me, but if you dig far enough, you'll find the first time I got flagged. Not for disagreement of rewards, but for retaliation.

Come full circle, I'm flagging too. But I'm here to show you how to flag properly.


In this post I will show:

  • how to flag for @steemflagrewards
  • how to determine what is abuse
  • how I flag bid bot abuse
  • how to do a follow on flag on a post flagged by someone else from @steemflagrewards

How do I find and flag abuse for SteemFlagRewards (SFR)

At SteemFlagRewards Discord server, there are three channels for helping you flag abuse.




How to report abuse channel:
When I first joined SteemFlagRewards, I didn't know how it worked. At one point I found an abuse, I just tagged SFR. I didn't flag the post. No one came and I didn't get a reward -- Mistake#1 What did I do wrong?

When I became an SFR server admin, I felt like I was baby sitting the new abuse fighters. Walking them through every step of the way. I wanted to help the new members so I created this channel.

In how-to-report-abuse, you will find the categories of abuse that the SFR bot will recognize and find in your comments.

Definitions of abuse channel:

Here you will find all the accepted types of abuse that SteemFlagRewards deals with.

This list is ever changing and expanding as abusers find more ways to abuse the platform. Many times it will just change because we decided on a more precise definition for a specific type of abuse.

Abuse fighting tools channel:

Every abuse fighter has their own toolset in tracking abuse. Here you will find many abuse fighting tools suggested by the team. Tools like plagiarism checkers and apps to help you see who is upvoting whom.

I'd like to request @Didic to make a post for us on how he uses Google effectively for plagiarism check.

Or if you know any tools/apps/scripts that can help us track abuse more efficiently, I'd be glad to see your comments.

Finding and flagging bid bot abuse

bid bot abuse

  • Compared to similar posts in the same category, the bought votes increase the rewards of the post above 50% of similar content. Blatantly overvalued bad post.

This definition would also apply to upvoted comments or post with many bid bot votes. This causes the value to be way more than the post should have. You can decide if you think the post is overvalued and disagree by flagging.

This post looks way over valued and has many bid bot votes. Every bid bot and their brothers are on this post. It also is plagiarism and copy/paste. The author of this post made screen shots of a school text book and was posting them. Look, a 63-rep big time abuser.

I am not hiding this person's identity because they should have never been doing this. And today they are still copying school book text and buying upvotes with bid bots. @jplaughing found this bad abuser.

Here I am flagging it too

If you care about your reputation going down when an abuser retaliates, make sure you are at least a 50.

Also make sure the SP of the said abuser is something you can tackle and handle.

Or if you don't care, flag away!

At SteemFlagRewards, we recommend that you have at least 200 SP to get rewarded for your flags.

Right now, with my 500-SP account, I can only take away .02 and get rewarded with the SFR beneficiary post. The bot doesn't vote my comments at lower than dust flags.

Follow on flags

Most of the abuse fighters I work with can only flag between .01 and .15 STU. We have higher-SP abuse fighters who can take away more than .20 STU.

But when an abusive post or comment is way higher than one of our 100% flags, it takes all of us to zero out the potential rewards.

The follow on flag is a support system for the abuse fighters.

We know it's a follow on flag because there is already a flag comment from @jplaughing and the @steemflagrewards bot. So I reply to the steemflagrewards bot to reduce our comments for flagging abuse.

Here you see the result of that comment string with a first flagger and then follow on flags.

Here is another example of a follow on flag behind the steemflagrewards bot.

The comment bot at SFR Discord grabs your comment that mentions steemflagrewards then checks if you have the abuse category listed from our definitions of abuse channel.

Then posts that comment in the SFR Discord mentions channel. The mods will then review the flag and comment. If approved, your comment will be loaded in queue to be upvoted.


Thanks for reading my version of SteemFlagRewards for Dummies specialized for bid bot abuse.

To recap:

  1. Find bid bot abuse - either a post or a comment
  2. Check the SP of the account for your safety
  3. Flag
  4. Comment with both "bid bot abuse" and "@steemflagrewards" mention
  5. If there's already a comment by steemflagrewards bot, reply to that comment with both "bid bot abuse" and "@steemflagrewards" mention
  6. The bot at SFR Discord server will grab your comments
  7. The moderators at SFR Discord server will review your flag, if valid, it will be approved and you'll see an upvote from steemflagrewards!

Many people have been wondering what I've been up to. Why I haven't been posting? If they are wondering why I'm involved with Steem Flag Rewards?

It all completely happened by accident. @Anthonyadavisii - the founder of SFR, asked me if I wanted to be admin when I suggested a channel for keeping track of all the abusers we had dealt with.

Now, Steem Flag Rewards is more powerful, meaningful and fighting a lot of abuse on the platform. Because of the work that I have done at SFR, I was given the opportunity to establish an anti-abuse initiative for the Utopian community.

I gladly accepted and look forward to a bright future for SFR and Utopian.

A big shout out to @Anthonyadavisii, @Enforcer48, @Steemseph, @Naturicia, @Guiltyparties, @Pjau, @Serylt, @Flugschwein for their trust and patience with me.
For @Themarkymark's friendship and help, I couldn't do this without you.
For @Nextgencrypto's friendship and trust.
For @Lukestokes tough but truthful help, without him and his advice I would have left the platform last March.
And finally for @Elear for giving me this great opportunity to be part of the Utopian community

There are many others I would like to thank for putting up with me, helping me. Without all your help, I would not be on the platform. Thank you all very much.


Excellent instructable that shows how @steemflagrewards works under the hood, how to use it in easy to understand language and also bringing to light the age old problem of bid bot abuse.

I appreciate that you conveyed the approximate SP requirement for flaggers to get upvoted. I didn't realize it is starting to take that much to meet the dust threshold. It's good to know!

Check the SP of the account for your safety

That is some wise advise right there. Revenge flagging is certainly a thing. Never flag with Reputation you cannot afford to lose. This is not financial advice.

Also, thanks for the mention in the credits and stepping up to the task as SFR Admin and so much more. We could not have reached this point if it were not for your hard work and perseverance. It's inspiring.

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Thank you for your review, @anthonyadavisii!

So far this week you've reviewed 1 contributions. Keep up the good work!

Great post @iamstan and a very good introduction to @steemflagrewards. Good flagging can bring balance to the steem blockchain. Thank you for all the amazing work you do!


Excellent post Stan! I don't understand how people ask for respect, when their contributions in themselves are a disrespect to all of us who take a long time to read, research and then translate all this into our entries.

I think they confuse freedom of expression with freedom over the rights of others. It is not freedom when the pool of rewards is violated and the value is taken away from a network that seeks to give opportunities to thousands of independent writers, cartoonists, photographers and free thinkers.

Thanks for your hard work!

Keep it up lads, SFR is the last place I visit every night before crashing. Any SP I have left in the kitty I expend it on flags for the unworthy. I rely on you guys to find the crap for me, and I know it takes time to find it.

Very well explained! Another must read for persons who want to contribute to the platform by combating abuse.

Ya, let's make steemit a better place.

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"You may not know me, but if you dig far enough, you'll find the first time I got flagged. Not for disagreement of rewards, but for retaliation.

Come full circle, I'm flagging too. But I'm here to show you how to flag properly." @iamstan

Flagging content you don't like instead of following the specific categories of abuse.

Seems like you didn't learn much from your first flag, retaliation flags...emotions and life getting in the way?

@iamstan is well in his right to down-vote you for personal reasons.
It's all just a part of curation process.
Some people up-vote what they like, other up-vote to get curation rewards, and, some down-vote what they dislike.
If it wasn't meant to be used, it wouldn't be put in place.

Truth, however i choose to use my voting power for good rather than cause havock and troll. If i see spam or copyright infringement im going to flag.

Does @anthonyadavisii know that for dummies logo is plagiarism and violates the registered trademark of J. Wiley & Sons, Inc.

"In fact, the Dummies series, the Dummies guy, the color scheme, all of that is a registered trademark of J. Wiley & Sons, Inc. (and originally it was IDG Books, an imprint of IDG Corporation out of Boston, but the history of the imprint and gradual evolution of the Dummies press is a whole ‘nother, quite interesting story, but not relevant here).

No, don't use the Dummies trade dress without licenseWhat you’re asking me about is whether it’s okay to violate trademarks and copyright, and of course the answer is that it isn’t. This falls into the area of intellectual property and I will warn you that it’s one of the most aggressively defended areas of corporate law. For example, companies with well-known trademarked characters like Disney have teams of lawyers that pursue any copyright violation"


Looks like you're having a hard time coping with the fact that you got flagged for posting a Trading View link as a body.

I don't think what you replaced it with was worth any rewards either to be honest. I really don't as it doesn't look like you are adding anything novel to Steem but rather regurgitated data from another site. You had like 9 words of commentary.

In any case, I did a hand drawn version of the graphic to alleviate your concerns. The "For Dummies" was a way to express the idea of simplifying what we do. Could have broken it down Barney Style but guess I wouldn't be able to use that likeness either under your austere guidelines.

You were flagged because it appeared that what you were doing was not really adding anything of unique value to the chain. I believe Stan was right in that judgment and you making a big deal about the image that I tailored for the memetic value via a process involvign both time and effort is just a smoke screen from you creating lackluster content.

Seriously, if you spend half of the energy you used being a nuisance, you could have probably made a t least a dollar by now on creating novel content.

It's still my content, many people link their posts from other sites, next time I will include more pictures and analysis + show my work.

As far as your picture goes, see where I'm coming from. You're trying to set an example, smokescreen or not your copyright infringement (you literally copied the logo) is much worse than poorly written content, not sure if you know this but i post links first to get the signal out there and add to my analysis over time. My posts are work in progress, maybe I'm using steem wrong.

To say this guy and his buddies did the right thing by trolling me is smokescreen in my eyes. All my content is origional, I spend a lot of time studying charts and I don't update threads right away. I run a company on my own. I understand you need to defend your help though.